Monday, June 28, 2010

The Sound and the Furry

Last weekend I attended a NASPD (National Association of Steel Pipe Distributors) function in Pittsburgh. As I entered the rather ornate lobby, I couldn't help but notice a rather dirty looking young man sitting at a cafe table and staring intently into his laptop. He looked out of place among the well-dressed hotel patrons not just because of his grubby attire, but also because he was sporting a hair band with attached fuzzy ears and false fox tail. I was, however, too jet-lagged and tired to ponder on this, and proceeded to the front desk.

After getting my room key, I turned and noticed a group of even more unsavory young men clustered around a bench. It was apparent from their wardrobe and poor grooming choices that these young men were, well... nerds. And I'm not talking about the kind of "nerd" that it's hip to be these days. Not where it's "cool" to be a "nerd," as our society has been celebrating "brains" over "jocks" in some cases. I'm talking about Booger from Revenge of the Nerds, but without any of his redeeming qualities. I began to observe more and more of this particular flavor of humanity as the day went on.

Finally, I found myself in an elevator with one. Being something of a nerd myself (I have a love for just about anything that's Sci-Fi/Fantasy. I have logged more hours on MMO's than I will mention here. Oh, and I was a frickin' theatre major), I was genuinely interested, and I thought I would be able to express my interest with some sincerity:


Me, warm, genuine interest: "Hey, can I ask you what's going on in the hotel?"

Nerd, immediately defensive: "What do you mean?"

Me, patient clarification: "Well, like, those name tag / convention pass things you're wearing... what's that for?"

Nerd, intentionally vague and aloof
: "Oh, it's Anthrocon."

Me, unassuming, rational follow-up: "I'm not familiar - what's that?"

Nerd, dismissive, with an audible sigh: "It would take too long to explain."


He slips out of the elevator. Like any reasonably cutting edge geek, I have a smart phone, and instantly google "Anthrocon" after he leaves. I quickly discover that the "long explanation" he was trying to avoid could have been summed up in two words: "Furry Convention."

After that, I posted a new Facebook status update, and was encouraged to get some photographic evidence. Furry photo-hunting is more difficult than you might think. Here is my favorite photo:

These are shy, timid creatures, and it is best not to approach them indoors.


I am probably more in touch with internet goings-on than the average 33 year old American, but I still I confess that my first exposure to the term "Furry" was through a more socially acceptable medium - namely, the HBO series Entourage. In the episode, one of the main characters was asked to dress up like a stuffed animal in order to have sex with an attractive young lady he contacted through Craigslist. Based on my recent experience, I have to conclude that Entourage misrepresented the Furry community. Do Furries look for sex over the internet? Probably. Are they attractive? Probably not.

I have been to comic book conventions. I have been to role-playing conventions. I have been to Star Wars and Star Trek conventions. Sure, you will see a hodge podge of various characters. You'll see all kinds. But you will occasionally see a hot chick wearing chain mail. Or Vulcan ears. Or a Golden Bikini. I kept expecting to, almost literally, see a "Foxy Lady" among the Furries. Maybe some kind of Catwoman type in sexy leather. I never saw anything close. What I saw, over and over and over and over again, were people who were just awkward looking to an extreme.

Believe me, I am really not trying to judge here. I am no male model. And I realize that there are things like inner beauty, and that beauty is usually in the eye of the beholder. I totally get that. But when you are consistently viewings specimens who have so clearly made ungainly grooming choices, you begin to wonder. We may have differences of opinions on what is "fashionable" or "attractive," but most of us would agree that "basic hygiene" is a common thread among what we find appealing.

Confused, I went to the internet to see what others may have to say on this topic. I found that my observations were widely supported. Nerds often fall into specific categories, and they even embrace that, participating fully in nerd elitism and nerd prejudices. The Star Trek and Star Wars camps feud constantly. Both factions may or may not get along with Stargate, or Battlestar Galactica nerds. And that's within Sci-Fi. We still have Lord of the Rings nerds and Larpers and so on and so on. However, Furries seem to be, quite simply, the most universally reviled subset in all of nerdom. Other nerds often simply do not tolerate the Furry Fandom.

The commonly held theory is that the unattractive and socially awkward are particularly drawn to fantasizing about being something they are not, like a majestic centaur. I did observe this to be exactly the case in Pittsburgh. The Furries were downright unapproachable socially (as in my elevator conversation). And there were no slick, good-looking people were wearing rabbit ears over their business casual gear. These were people sticking fuzzy tails through the same pair of dingy cargo shorts they hadn't washed in seven years.

Again, I am not here to judge, just to make some observations. People fascinate me. But for those of you who might think I've been too "mean" in this Blog, let me leave you with this:

One of the local four-star hotels had to kick several Furries out last weekend. It was discovered that there were about 6-8 of them sharing a room. But it was not for this cost-saving practice. The problem, it seemed, was that these Furries had opted not to use the well-appointed human facilities that were included with the lavish hotel room. Instead, this group of Furries brought, and made ample use of, a box of kitty litter. Yes, that is correct. The cleaning maids found the box of kitty litter and the evidence contained therein.

Coming home from some cocktails on my last night in Pittsburgh, I again found myself in an elevator with some Furries. Someone from my party had recently heard the above story, and just had to ask if it were true. The Furries confirmed the story. They did assure us that we should not view this as the norm, but that yes, it does happen.

Good night, everybody!

27 comments:

  1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGk_9UroiF0

    I'm pretty sure that's your purple fox friend at about 1:01...

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  3. Sorry that you had such a terrible experience. I assure you that even furries shun furries that don't shower and appear to only leave their parents houses for this con.

    I also assure you that while they stick out the most, its because the normal furries look just that: Normal.

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  4. As a representative of the furry fandom I must offer my apologies for your experiences, but I am going to say the same as the individual above. As is true in just about any aspect of life, it's the most extreme cases that will always stand out.

    How many unkempt and scruffy people do you think you saw during your time in Pittsburgh? A hundred or so, max? It's suddenly not such a huge proportion when you find out that 4,238 people were there.

    Furries are, admittedly, not the most universally liked of fandoms/subcultures, but neither were/are Trekkies, goths and all that ilk. In fact, there's quite a lot of cross-contamination between them.

    Just speaking as a furry, Trekkie, Whovian citizen journalist and politician and all.

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  5. I see others have already posted responses similar to the one I would have, so I'll just take this chance to echo Shaun and omnibahumut above. I do apologize for the experience you had with those folks, and I'm almost certain that you could have gotten an actual explanation from a vast majority of the 4200 people attending the convention.

    Hell -- I saw someone *in full costume* having a very pleasant conversation with some curious folks sitting in the outside seats of one of the local bars.

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  6. Obvious troll is obvious.

    Move along, nothing to see here.

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  7. I'm fully willing to admit my experience is limited. But aside from that... what the - six replies? Within hours? I never get comments, I don't think anyone other than a few Facebook friends even knows this Blog exists.

    I have to ask... do you guys scour the internet looking for posts about you?

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  8. I was in that same hotel. You probably missed picking out many of the furries since a lot of them won't pull out badges until they're actually entering the convention. Walking around strange city wearing a badge that clearly says "I'm from out of town!" is not a good idea, personal safety-wise, particularly at off hours. It's a relatively safe area, but if you're a girl walking around after midnight, you don't want to be wearing a sign that says "I'm not from here."

    The majority don't wear any costume parts at all, so a lot of the people wandering around were in fact furries... they just weren't wearing a sign. Unfortunately the ones you DID see weren't the friendliest or tidiest lot.

    (as to the comments, you were linked off a popular blog)

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  9. Hey, Langhorne -- thanks for writing. I ("Tom Howling") was at Anthrocon and am embarrassed that you had that experience. I don't question it for a second: Yours is one of the fairest first-person accounts I've seen for a while. (I doubt the veracity of the litter-box incident, but you're clear that that's a second-hand report. :) )

    By the way: I found your post through a post in the FurryMedia LiveJournal community, http://community.livejournal.com/furrymedia/286827.html . I just read the comments there... and am unimpressed. *sigh*. And don't these young 'uns know what "troll" means anymore? :-P (To wit: "Falsehood-laden post intended above all else to evoke a negative response", not "Thing I disagree with".)

    Still, I'm surprised you didn't see *anyone* there you found attractive. I found plenty of babes of all genders and types there, and I have high standards. It could be the clothing: Put a "babe" in a baggy nerd t-shirt, and it's easy to be distracted from their babitude. Hmm... and how many hotties were at the NASPD conference, hmm? ;)
    So why did you have the experience you had? That's a complicated question. For one thing, furries are demographically young -- the median age is around 23, according to several surveys. Complicating factors include the amount of community life that occurs online, i.e. without face-to-face interaction. The group is self-selecting toward those who communicate well online, perhaps correlated to weak face-to-face interaction.

    I should note that, at 42, I'm what they call a "greymuzzle". (You would be, too: The term is usually used for furs over 30.)

    I've been going to furry conventions since 1999, but this AC was challenging to me for the reasons you outlined. Not that the community's that much different this year... maybe I'm just getting older. I also noticed MANY MORE curiosity-seekers from the general public wandering around the open hotel spaces, usually easy to spot in evening wear and traveling in groups of three or four (always opposite-sex!) couples. I certainly felt more defensive as a result; maybe your first interlocutor did as well.

    Rant rant rant... shouldn't I be working or something? :) Anyway, there's my $0.02.

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  10. And don't these young 'uns know what "troll" means anymore? :-P (To wit: "Falsehood-laden post intended above all else to evoke a negative response", not "Thing I disagree with".)

    Trust me on this: I know what troll means, and this post is a "Falsehood-laden post intended above all else to evoke a negative response"

    Langhorne is a trollish furbasher who went to Pittsburg filled with hostility because of some nonsense he saw on HBO.

    "In the episode, one of the main characters was asked to dress up like a stuffed animal in order to have sex with an attractive young lady he contacted through Craigslist".

    Or he went looking for some *hawt* furry action and discovered that furries are no easier than non-furries. He didn't get laid, and this is his revenge.

    Out of 4,328 guests there wasn't *one* good-looking guest?

    Out of 4,328 guests, 4,328 guests were all wearing dingy cargo pants that looked like they hadn't been washed in seven years?

    Whatever.

    I don't believe his protestations to the contrary for so much as a Planc's Interval.

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  11. x-eleven -

    If anyone here is a troll, it is surely you. You have either ignored much of what I said in my post, or you are willfully mischaracterizing me.

    I went to Pittsburgh on a BUSINESS TRIP. I had no idea AnthroCon was happening at the same time. I tried to ask about it and got blown off. The trail of negativity doesn't begin with me, I am just reacting to it.

    FURTHER, if you look at the comments I have gotten from your community, FOUR of them were apologies. Probably, they are apologizing for YOUR KIND OF FURRY. Only a couple were from people like you who think I was "trolling."

    It's actually IMPOSSIBLE that I am trolling because A) I wrote this for me, on my Blog. You came here. I didn't bring it to you. I didn't shove it in anyone's face. B) I actually made an attempt to CARE about what you think, and posted on your forum. If I were really trolling, I wouldn't care, and would just be insulting you more right now.

    If you want to settle this, why don't you provide us all with YOUR picture, "sans costume?" Are you confident that you don't fit my stereotype? Can you prove that you're NOT rude, socially awkward, and unattractive? You already seem to have failed 2 out of 3. But prove me wrong. Let's see a picture.

    FYI to everyone, I am SURE that I will be blogging about the experience that I've had since posting this. Stay tuned for my "Furry Follow-up!"

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  12. x-eleven, chill out. This is what the man saw, heard, read, and thought. It is highly unlikely that it's a troll: it's far too detailed; not even master trolls do it like this. On the contrary, your post does not address the claims of the entry, save for a couple of them: that he had viewed the Entourage episode, and that furries are not beautiful people. Quite frankly, we aren't beautiful people, but neither are the vast majority of nerds/geeks/etc., nor are the vast majority of people overall. (Of course, this is just my opinion, but you knew that just by reading it, right?)

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  13. Let's follow your train of thought.

    1. Nervous furry in elevator
    2. That one episode of Entourage
    3. No hot chicks
    4. Fecal-related rumor
    5. Furries = teh suck

    The logic here is overwhelming. Successful troll is successful.

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  14. OK, I see I'm about to be overruled by many more of my kind. I'll re-evaluate after eating.

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  15. Troll or not, there is no denying that there are some that are young and without social graces. In fact, many furries spend too much time on the internet instead of in front of one another where actual communication can be practiced.

    Furries are very inclusive and you would be surprised that many of these socially shunned people end up as very successful people in the real world. This is because we help each other to grow and learn. Those of us that are older take responsibility for mentoring some of these lost "kids" in socially positive directions while recognizing that a corporate title does not mean you've "Made It". Furs tend to be a very technological group as "Furrydom grew out of the internet culture. It was the only way in the old days for those interested in anthropomorphic characters could really make attachments.

    Unfortunately, it seems you weren't able to look any deeper than what you saw on the surface which, like Booger, stood out most to those looking from the outside in.

    I, myself, have degrees in Electronics, Computer Science, and an MBA. I've worked at some very cutting edge companies in both engineering and relationship facing roles. I am not an exception to the rule. I know many many Furs that are just as educated and successful but you won't find many of us touting it for fear of being discriminated against in the work place (the long arm of Google). While I'm not discounting your experience, it's unfortunate that you are not likely to see the caring/loving community that celebrates itself.

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  16. Dear Sir,

    As a furry much to my dismay, your observations are correct. I've been to Anthrocon twice and can confirm everything you've posted. Many furries I've ran to in person are socially unacceptable and don't know how to bathe. There are furs who are online who don't go to conventions, and those are probably the more socially acceptable people. Unfortunately from what I've observed more socially unacceptable people go to the larger conventions, for reasons I will explain

    This I'm not joking about, many furries will go to Anthrocon to get laid. Now when I say "get laid," I mean anal sex. If you ever go on livejournal, look up a group named furrydrama_2. Recently there were a couple posts in regards to Anthrcon.

    (both of these people mentioned were mentioned on furrydrama_2 since they made postings elsewhere online about their "mishaps")
    One person complained about the TSA not properly closing a bottle of "Bad Dragon Cum Lube" which leaked all over his property inside of his bag. Mind you this was a carry on, and the TSA should've told him the bottle is more than the TSA restrictions. When I say "Cum Lube," I mean the product of BadDragon, which makes a set of scalie/dragon dildos. These products are some of the most popular in the furry fandom, aside from ZetaCreations. You can google both of these, ZetaCreations has a wikifur(furry wiki) page on the second or third hit.

    Another person complained about someone stealing his dog dildo during a room orgy perpetrated by multiple individuals. His posting was stated in summary, "Return my dog dildo, I didn't even have sex." Apparently some people get their jollies off watching other people have sex.

    (cont'd)

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  17. (cont'd from my earlier comment)

    Don't get me wrong, Pittsburgh is a wonderful place and I'm in the process of moving to the area. However furries who go to conventions are making every furry in the fandom look like the standard.

    Last year when I attended Anthrocon, I crossed paths with two federal reserve officers posted a block away from the convention. A friend who is a military contractor was walking next to me, we were both dressed in BDUs, and they stopped to ask us a couple of questions. They asked if who we were and if attending the con was our goal. We both stated yes, they looked at us quite oddly. One spoke up asking if the convention was about buttsex. Yes you read right, we were asked this question directly. As a person who tends to influence people, I spoke up stating the convention was about a variety of topics, and my own interest was art/fursuiting(sort of an art). They explained a couple of individuals came by stating, "we're going back to our room for tons of hot gay buttsex!" Right then I felt as if a facepalm could go through my head. We both talked with the officers for about 15 minutes before parting ways while all parties were making a buttsex pun on occasion during casual conversation. We mainly talked about firearms and law related topics.

    About myself and people/furries I surround myself with in life:
    There are "fringe groups"(to the furry fandom) who are actually normal people wanting to help their community(where they live). I'm one of those individuals, you can google my name Insane Kangaroo and see a photo of me. I bathe, well groomed, always wear clean clothes. I'll become an officer after I move to PA since I'm going to help my community however I can due to my amount of tactical training.

    There *are* furries who are normal people, unfortunately I don't believe you'll run in to any in person, at least not many.

    I'm going to post a link to this journal from furrydrama_2, as it's a fair and honest overview of furry conventions.

    Sincerely,
    Insane Kangaroo
    IT Specialist / Software Engineer
    Homer, Alaska (moving to western Pennsylvania this month)

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  18. I was there.

    I'm a furry.

    I even wore cargo shorts one day for shits and giggles.

    I looked good, dammit.

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  19. First and foremost - you may not want to regard Insane Kangaroo. His response may / may not be fueled by emotions regarding his banning from AnthroCon with issues involving his habits as an open carrier of firearms.

    What do I have to say about AnthroCon? Being a furry myself and also a costumer / fursuiter, I can say I have never run into anything disgusting. Oddball, yes, but not disgusting. I'm talking people with bright, colouful costumes with LED lighting or showing off their collection of pound puppy plush toys. All of the people I have met at AnthroCon are very open people, willing to talk and share interests. People stay bathed, well-groomed, and I have never witnessed any misbehaviour outside of the common convention mischief. Some people get a little too hyper. Some people might drink a little too much.

    You know what, though? All people have their vices, and furries are no exception. You may have just run into the rumor mill or bumped into the unlucky few that have more vices than others.

    Just because somebody is a furry does not mean they're automatically going to be some weirdo to bypass the geek expectations. Some of us are brilliant minds, and many more are college educated. The majority of us just like cartoon animals and want to get in touch with our childhood once more.

    Personally, I'm an artist, and I've always loved cartoon animals - and that's what AnthroCon is about for me. AnthroCon is fun, friends, and cartoon animals.

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  20. @starchildebrite,

    Not really, referring to larger conventions as a whole. Last year I really did believe rumors were rumors, but now I see all the talk about sex parties with dildos and other kinky-ass things are true.

    I keep hearing similar "rumors"(probably true) at other larger conventions, which make me want to limit attending of cons with an attendance of about 500 people.

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  21. Hello -

    Yeah, you're going to get a lot of replies. Furries in general tend to react... adversely to media (Even private blog posts) being present.

    This has less to do with a reasoned judgment of individual media sources, and more to do with a gut-reaction learned from the last, oh, 15 years of how the fandom has been portrayed in the media.

    Now, I will say that I've never been to Anthrocon, although I would have if I could. However, I've been to the second largest furry convention in the world (Further Confusion, at San Jose), and I have been staffing Califur (Orange County/LA Area) since 2006. Rumors of misbehavior happen all the time.

    The litterbox rumor is a rumor, and until I see something from someone who has first hand knowledge about it, I'm going to discount it as the usual con drama. We ALL know how rumors can get started - I did a joke one year about how Califur was moving to Tijuana, Mexico - and it kept going for half a year, despite me saying it was a joke immediately afterwards.

    Furries tend to be akward in person, especially when it comes to explaining what the furry fandom is. Unless you are mentally prepared for it...

    Now, I can't speak for the kid in the elevator, but there have been times when I'd told people "It's kinda complicated" as a way of explanation - because it's been a long day, I'm tired, I've gone through the explanation about 10 times in the last 20 minutes, and I'm heading up to sit down and not think for a bit, preferable in a shower. That may or may not have happened, but please remember that a furry convention is NOT a trade show - it is a full participatory social event. Think like a festival, or a huge extended family reunion.

    As for a lack of attractive people, or an attention to grooming - Um. Maybe my standards are perhaps a wee bit broad compared to your own, but I find a lot of people in the furry fandom physcially attractive, good looking, or at least not 'ugly' or 'plain'. Perhaps in the tiny sampling you happened across in your happenstance intersection with the furry fandom, you had an usually high ammount of, well, ugly people - but there were about four thousand people there.

    Money is tight for me right now, else I'd invite you to Antheria (October, this year, LA), Further Confusion (January, 2011, San Jose), or Califur (June, 2011, Orange County) and offer to pay your membership - so that you may have a better sampling of what the furry fandom is.

    Now, it's not likely you'd take me up on that offer anyhow. You seem to be a busy professional, and likely wouldn't be able to take the time and other expenses (hotel, food, travel) to get a better glimpse into something you've likely little interest in, but I felt like making the offer.

    The furry fandom, as a whole, is filled with nice but misunderstood people - even misunderstanding themselves. I'm inviting you to come take a look at the nice side of the furry fandom, rather than the random poor glimpse you may have gotten in Pittsburgh over the weekend.

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  22. Also - Please ignore insane-kangaroo. He's insane.

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  23. Yes...we furries do scour the internet looking for stuff written about us. Your blog was featured on an LJ community known as "Furry Drama", so expect a LOT more comments.

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  24. Ya know, its really easy to make up a story that picks on a vulnerable group of individuals because you weren't man enough to talk to them in person and get to know them.
    How about next time you try and act like a decent human being and not an ape man and actually try to get to know the people you are writing about rather then making up demeaning stories.

    I may not agree with how much furries feed on drama but its still really sad to see that you took the low and ignorant way out by writing this kind of thing just because you don't understand a group of individuals different from yourself....

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  25. Wow, it's amazing what weirdos are out there! That story about the litter box in the unspecified four star hotel was chilling, and while you didn't provide any source or substantiation for it, it sounded thoroughly plausible and not at all like an urban legend to me.

    You know what's even worse though? I talked to the same person from whom you heard about the litter box, and his sister's hairdresser's pastor's accountant said that he heard that the hotels hosting the National Association of Steel Pipe Distributors basically had to shut down for a day after that group left, just to clean out all the farm animal detritus and dead hookers that group left behind. Also that they're unattractive and lousy tippers. That's just what I heard, but I guess people wouldn't be saying it if there wasn't some truth in it, right?

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  26. Aww man, you totally should have found me, Every SINGLE time someone asked about my boyfriend's suit and "What's going on here" I explained, if not in detail. I was there as a suit handler (Meaning my boyfriend is the one in the suit, I watch around him for things that may harm him with his limited field of vision) and I will say there are a LOT of strange things to see when AnthroCon is going on.

    Some 'furries' are more outgoing than others (Myself and my boyfriend included). All of my family and close friends know about the fandom and I rarely hide it from people that I -am- a furry. But I also don't go blurting it out like I'm proud of it. It's like being a Trekky or any other fan of something. Some people take it too far, but that's their thing. Not everyone in the fandom is like that (I couldn't stand a litter box anyway, I HATE sand/beaches, and my 'fursona' is part feline as well)

    It's awesome to see a true 'outsider' view of the convention. I had actually told my boyfriend that I wondered what the reaction of someone who didn't know about Anthrocon would be if he just showed up at the Westin (or any of the other hotels)

    As my mother says as well: "If you have a good experience, you'll tell a handful of people. And if you have a bad experience, you tell the world" This is sad but true about the furry fandom, a LOT of negative (and true) things are focused upon when it comes down to it. But there's a lot of good as well. I personally know some suiters who do charity work and birthday parties. My boyfriend suited up as a farmer hyena when he visited my tiny farm-based home town festival.

    The best way to handle the fandom is with an open mind and the ability to shake your head, smirk and say "Oh furries..."

    Least that's how I handle it. ;)

    ~Arianna

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  27. In my experiences as a furry/otaku/transformer fan, any nerd-related con (be it A-Kon, Botcon, Mephit Furmeet, ect) has it's share of BO-ridden people that don't shower, furry cons being no exception. What I've noticed is usually folks are too busy running around having a good time and are reluctant to hit the pause button to take a shower... or sleep... or eat in some cases. Insomnia, starvation, and body odor is just par for the course.

    As for furries being furtive and unfriendly, I can also understand that, considering the horrible reputation the fandom has from the handful of weirdos flying their freak flag in front of TV cameras and claiming they represent everyone in the fandom.

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